TA111 (Beamish)

Commentary 11 (to R11)


Herbert FJ Müller
23 December 2008, posted 3 January 2009


[PB] All of life has mind.

[HM] I agree that humans are not the only ones.  But please let us hear the case for Arabidopsis and HIV !


[from before :]

[HM] I have never seen an explanation by those who advocate the existence of mind-independent realities for how structures that are not in the mind can get into (be received by, as you say) the mind.

[HM] They could not BECOME what you call mind-dependent; the reason is that the so-called onta are speculative extrapolations from human gestalt-formations, and START and always REMAIN as such within the mind.

[PB] [Clock scalar labels are NOT in/within a mind until an "MVP" transports them into a thought.]

[PB] [One's mind involves "Now TIME," & you may be referring above to one's memory.]

[HM] If you postulate mind-independence of entities, you do that within your mind.

[new :]

[HM] ‘Now’ is the only possible start point, the rest is extrapolation.  Labels are mental structures, like all others, made in the mind, not transported in from somewhere else.  If you disagree, please explain how you can know something that is not in your mind, as you claim.   That sounds entirely mysterious.


Herbert FJ Müller
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